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Em2205 |
The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 8 2008, 6:20 PM EST
Did anyone else have an issue with Jodi in this scene?I'll openly admit that I'm not the biggest fan of Jodi ever, but the way she assumed Bette was trying to "control" her space really annoyed me! I read the whole thing as Bette trying to do something nice and romantic for Jodi's return, and not in anyway a gesture of "control" from Bette. I've always been a massive fan of Bette and Tina as a couple, and now that they've had their time apart and have seemingly grown up, I think they deserve to get back together. There's something about Jodi that has always set me on edge, I just don't see her as a "match" for Bette...I just don't think they "fit" together as a couple in the way that Bette and Tina did. I dunno, I think it's just because I really dislike the woman! Hehe! I love Marlee Matlin as an actress, but just don't like the character of Jodi. What do you guys all think? Em x 49 out of 50 found this valuable. Do you?
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Teckie |
1. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 8 2008, 8:38 PM EST
I really really like Marlee Matlin and I like Jodie. But, I dont think she is a match for Bette. When it comes down to important life issues they seam to be on opposite sides of the fence. One has and loves kids, the other doesnt want them, thinks they are a bother, etc. You know the biggies, which I think will be the eventual deal busters. But the artist side of each of them are going to have some great sex with one another till it's done. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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2. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 8 2008, 9:29 PM EST
"But the artist side of each of them are going to have some great sex with one another till it's done."Ya think? That blindfold scene did nothing for me, and none of their sex scenes from last season were all that exciting either, imo. Two artist-types, and actresses as hot as those two should be hotter together, but those two are lacking chemistry. I was kind of "meh" on Jodi all last season, but the tablecloth incident in ep 501 put me solidly in the Anti-Jodi camp. If Jodi is unhappy about Bette creating a nice dinner table for her, I think it has more to do with Jodi's control issues than Bette's. When Bette stepped back and said "I don't know what to do" it broke my heart a little bit. Jodi doesn't seem to consider Bette's feelings at all. Maybe that's what Bette used to do to Tina and that's the point of the storyline, but meanwhile it's hard to watch. 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Teckie |
3. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 8 2008, 10:14 PM EST
I don't know. Part of me kinda understands Jodi too. Here is Bette. Are they living together?? Who's home was this. This was jodi's space that she had and it was her's. She came home expecting things to be in an order that she was accoustome to. I think Jodi is happy with simple things not cluttering up her life. Like tables, fancy furnature, kids, long term commitments to one person.In this sence I do think she is a little like Bette. Thats another reason I think they have no ying/yang. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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maine45 |
4. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 9 2008, 8:51 AM EST
"Did anyone else have an issue with Jodi in this scene?i don't dislike jodi at all, i think she is a wonderful actress, but it seems that jodi doesn't appreciates things that bette does for her... Bette is not in control at all, she was just trying to surprise her with a beautiful table cloth , and several stuff she had on the table... and showing how much she cares for jodi.... i thought that was a good scene what bette did. i think its time for bette and tina to get back together,,,, they where apart for some time now.... and you can tell that tina is starting to fall back inlove with bette... and how tina looks at bette when bette is not looking. so lets see what happens in the second episode of season five...... so girls what do you think???? 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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tulips4u |
5. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 9 2008, 12:00 PM EST
RUN,BETTE,Run!!
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6. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 9 2008, 1:56 PM EST
I Agree With You;) Jodi was a Lil Harsh .....Bette was tryin 2 Do something nice and was treated like crap
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Em2205 |
7. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 9 2008, 2:01 PM EST
"RUN,BETTE,Run!!"Hehehe! Love it Tulips! Whatevah: I complete agree that the whole scene showed Jodi's problems with control and not Bette's. I also agree about the two of them lacking chemistry, they've never really done it for me at all. Much in the same way that Candace didn't really do it for me either. It's also really hard to watch as Bette is struggling to know what to do, and how to handle Jodi. I mean, Bette is such a strong character, and while it's cute to watch the childlike side of her, I miss the strong, confident Bette. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see her the way she used to be with Tina, I want the new grown up version of Bette and the new grown up version of Tina to get back together. Tina is just so cute at the minute with the way she looks at Bette, and you can start to see Bette reacting to Tina renewed love for her. It's only a matter of time...I hope! :o) Em x 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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rozvt |
8. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 9 2008, 4:34 PM EST
hi I'm new here. I had a few problems with the tablecloth scene. Why just the tablecloth? Where was dinner? Or is that how they all stay so skinny--just the tablecloths and no food? I think if there was a fabulous meal on the table Jodi would not have had a problem with the surprise. I love Bette and really don't care much for Jodi but I see her point.2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
KIDONACORNER |
9. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 9 2008, 6:05 PM EST
it just seems jodi is trying way too hard and bette won't break
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maine45 |
10. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 9 2008, 8:36 PM EST
"it just seems jodi is trying way too hard and bette won't break"Good going emm, run bette runlllllll that is so funny..... You can see the chemistry between jodi and bette, but not so much like tina and bette had when they where together..... Bette is a strong woman and she will not break at all...... good going bette!!!!!!! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
MissNight |
11. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 10 2008, 2:33 AM EST
"hi I'm new here. I had a few problems with the tablecloth scene. Why just the tablecloth? Where was dinner? Or is that how they all stay so skinny--just the tablecloths and no food? I think if there was a fabulous meal on the table Jodi would not have had a problem with the surprise. I love Bette and really don't care much for Jodi but I see her point.haha I loved this! It's funny how you guys view this scene where as I see it in a completly different light. I see this scene as "comunication problem". Now I know what you guys are thinking "Well no cause Bette is trying to learn sign language" etc etc. But I am not referring to that sort of comunication. I have always said it, Bette has a hard time letting down her gaurd and saying the inner truth of things. When Jodi comes in and thinks that Bette is trying to control her and be a control freak, Bette gets offended and tries to act tough. What she sould have done was say "No, you misunderstand me sweety, I was trying to be nice. You have the wrong idea" and say that with a kind attitude instead of her deffensive responce of "I was just trying to do something nice for you." You can see it in her face. I think that maybe Jodi is just an experience for Bette. Like Jodi comming up to her and saying "I am going to control you" and then blindfolding her. We'll see what happens! -Dana Do you find this valuable? |
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maine45 |
12. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 10 2008, 5:07 AM EST
"haha I loved this! It's funny how you guys view this scene where as I see it in a completly different light. I see this scene as "comunication problem". Now I know what you guys are thinking "Well no cause Bette is trying to learn sign language" etc etc. But I am not referring to that sort of comunication. I have always said it, Bette has a hard time letting down her gaurd and saying the inner truth of things. When Jodi comes in and thinks that Bette is trying to control her and be a control freak, Bette gets offended and tries to act tough. What she sould have done was say "No, you misunderstand me sweety, I was trying to be nice. You have the wrong idea" and say that with a kind attitude instead of her deffensive responce of "I was just trying to do something nice for you." You can see it in her face.Your right o n that part........ i didn't see it....... the communication is off a little bit. But it seems everytime jodi has a chance.... she throws in that bette is trying to control her....... I dont see it all the time. gina Do you find this valuable? |
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13. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 13 2008, 11:32 AM EST
The word problem doesn't even begin to describe it.... I don't like Bette and Jodi... in the other hand I was very happy they started fighting as soon as they were alone!TIBETTE 2008!!!!!1 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
ceetime |
14. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 13 2008, 2:43 PM EST
i thought bette was trying to do something nice. jodi was offended b/c she felt it was bette was trying to control her space. i can see both points. tina would have loved the gesture.
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Em2205 |
15. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 13 2008, 3:23 PM EST
Definitely think it shows that Jodi and Bette aren't that strong the fact that they can't communicate their problems to each other and they started arguing as soon as they were alone.I feel that 2008 is gunna Bette and Tina's year!! Em xx 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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maine45 |
16. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 13 2008, 4:06 PM EST
"Definitely think it shows that Jodi and Bette aren't that strong the fact that they can't communicate their problems to each other and they started arguing as soon as they were alone.I think what bette did was so romantic, passionate and godddd i would love it if someone did that for me.... Tina would of love it if bette did that for her....... Tina and bette are a good match..... but I hope they grown enough for both of them to get back together......... gina 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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bibou57 |
17. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 13 2008, 4:27 PM EST
jodie is uninteresting and i don't understand matlin's acting....she was bad in season 4 andit's not better in season 5.....unable to kiss a woman and to play a lesbian??? bad casting and if even jennifer beals can't teach her to kiss nobody can't.....
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cdhenderson1 |
18. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 17 2008, 8:04 PM EST
Bibou57,Did you forget that the woman can't hear? So not only does she have to act, but at the same time she has to be able to partially read lips just to make sure she is saying her lines on que. I don't see anything wrong with her acting at all. She has had no problem kissing jennifer beals, everybody is different. Not everybody kisses the same, most people base passion partially from hearing passionate sounds from their lover and since she is deaf, she doesn't have that liberty so the reason that her passion is not on queue with Bette's passion is because she can't hear when Bette is turned on, she mostly judges by body language which takes a little more time to dicepher than hearing someone say '"Fuck me harder". The short quick kisses are more than likely coming from the passion she is feeling. I must admit, I do the same myself, when I am really turned on my kisses get quicker and harder and I have never hard any complaints from any of my lovers, so just because she doesn't fall under your definition of how a lesbian should act does not make her a bad actress. Give the lady a break!! And as far as the tablecloth scene goes, just remember she did not write the storyline, it was put there to bring about a strong dislike reaction from you tibette fans and that's exactly what it did. I love Jodi Lerner 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: The "table cloth" incident...Bette and Jodi
Jan 17 2008, 10:43 PM EST
Also remember that Marlee is an Oscar winner...and have you forgotten the "good morning" scene from season four? Very hot!
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